tinyjo: (chihiro)
I'm going have a week of trying really hard to apply the Weightwatchers programme this week - I need to remind myself that when I do it properly I can actually lose weight. One of the things I've been having problems with in the last couple of weeks particuarly but also generally is comfort eating. Or not exactly comfort eating but I've been finding that I get home and have dinner and a glass of wine and then what seems to happen is that I feel tired and perhaps a little bored and just want to sit in front of the TV with another glass of wine and perhaps a toasted pitta or bakewell tart. And then repeat for the next 3 hours or so.

So my question is have you got any suggestions for things I could try instead. I need something with fairly low barrier to entry (as it were) as it's difficult to get myself started but once I'm going I can get re-energised fairly quickly. Ideally it should also be something that I don't do just sitting down in the living room, at least for the moment as I currently associate that with relaxing with wine, pittas, etc. Any ideas?

Also, as support is so important ( :) ) I thought I'd organise a pub meet tonight. Far from the Madding Crowd? (Or Copa, but they have more tempting food) from around 5:45? Comment now and I'll txt [livejournal.com profile] white_hart after lunch with the conclusions.

Date: November 14th, 2005 09:00 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] satyrica.livejournal.com
I find boredom eating a big problem: it's like a default activity when I'm at a loose end . . .

Date: November 14th, 2005 09:24 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] brixtonbrood.livejournal.com
I have an extensive selection of herbal and fruity teas for these moments.

Oooh!

Date: November 14th, 2005 09:51 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] dotty.livejournal.com
What you could try is food that actually does prevent you from indulging, like in the GI diet: seed grain wholemeal bread instead of white, nuts (walnuts, peanuts, etc.), they fill you up really fast and believe me, you won't feel like eating afterwards. Houmous (chickpeas) is very good for nibbles , on seeded bread. I got the book by A. Worrall-Thompson and it explains everything. You can get some photocopies of recipes, if you want.

Date: November 14th, 2005 10:06 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] vinaigrettegirl.livejournal.com
What Dotty says about the GI diet... cutting a clean head of Romaine lettuce into quarters and eating it out of hand dipped in a basic dressing is also amazingly satisfying.

If you are using wine to relax, you're probably better off (calorie-wise and psychologically and physiologically) with a single measured shot of brandy or Scotch than with three glasses of red or white (I'm hazarding a guess of one glass per hour for three hours).

If the idea of having a single dose of hard stuff "to relax" seems too close to flirting with alcohol dependency, as opposed to "just having a few glasses of wine" then conceivably you may be kidding yourself a little about the whole relationship between alcohol, weight, and you, full stop. Possibly. Or not. Having found myself at one time easily consuming half a bottle of red every day - it crept up on me somehow - I did have to face up to the fact that three or four glasses in the evening was half a bottle and for me that was too much. And getting rid of the extra weight was as hard as getting rid of the creeping dependency. But worth it in the end. Wine every day + insufficient exercise = fat. :-( Alas....

Just a thought, anyway.

Date: November 14th, 2005 12:18 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
The trick is that I love the taste of red wine, but not the taste of brandy/scotch. Perhaps I should try to train myself on scotch - I've heard it's an aquired taste. What's a good entry level whisky?

Date: November 14th, 2005 02:28 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vinaigrettegirl.livejournal.com
Deepnds on whether you have a sweet tooth or a savoury one, and if you like Lapsang Souchong tea.

You could stay off Scotch and try bourbon, which is sweeter without being sickly: Jack Daniels is a perfectly acceptable entry-level bourbon. I love red wine also. I quite like very old Macallan Scotch; I will sip at Glen Moray and at Lagavulin, but sadly the best-ever Scotch, Bhunabhain ('bune-ah-hav-ain') is no more. But a good Macallan is lovely. Most blends will taket he roof of your mouth off and give you a nasty headache besides, so stay off the Bell's and the Dewar's. Even if offered them to you by a B & B landlady served by the teacupful at 8 a.m., they will dae ye nae gude, as I have found to my cost.

Date: November 16th, 2005 03:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
More of a savoury one, I would say, and I am a fan of Lapsang Souchong (much to Alex's disgust).

keep the hands and mind occupied

Date: November 14th, 2005 10:21 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] cleanskies.livejournal.com
ext_36163: (todolist)
Watch TV with the computer on the sofa -- the modern equivalent of knitting, tapestry, cross-stitch, embroidery ...

Date: November 14th, 2005 11:02 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] white_hart
white_hart: (Apples)
Ah, but I'm not at work this week, and therefore have daytime access to LJ :-) And would be up for pubmeet as I want to go to M&S anyway. FFtMC gets my vote, as Copa doesn't sell proper beer.

Re the comfort eating, not having snacky things in the house is always a good start! Another thing that might work is eating later - we tend to have dinner around eight, which means there's not really time to get hungry again before bedtime. I usually have a snack as soon as I get in from work (usually a slice of bread with some cold meat) which seems to keep me going until then. The wine is probably the killer, though; not only does it pack a pretty hefty calorie punch on its own, but it does tend to reduce will-power and bring on attacks of the munchies. If you try to have a few alcohol-free evenings you'll probably find that you feel less tired and less inclined to nibble at things.

And if you must snack, try having fruit and nuts and things around instead of pitta bread and mini bakewells!

Date: November 14th, 2005 12:22 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
Eating later might work, although I'd have to try to move my lunch as well I think - I tend to eat that comparitively early so get hungry correspondingly early. What I tend to find is that after I finish dinner I'll think "oh, I'll just have a bakewell for dessert" and that's where it starts.

Actually, something that I hadn't thought about until I said that was that Alex and I eat our dinner on the sofa in the living room. I wonder if moving that to the dining room would help me to have a clearer distinction between eating time and the rest of the evening.

I see Bethan can't come this evening. Do you want to meet up for a quick one anyway?

Date: November 14th, 2005 12:50 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] white_hart
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Yes, if the problem is less snacking-after-dinner and more dinner-morphing-into-all-evening-grazing, I would think that giving dinner more definition would help. We normally eat at the kitchen table anyway, because I don't really like eating off my lap (too easy to end up covered in sauce, I find!), but it does mean that sofa=somewhere you go after dinner is finished.

Happy to meet up if you are - FFtMC, then?

Date: November 14th, 2005 01:45 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
Yup, sounds good to me.

Date: November 14th, 2005 11:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] dyddgu.livejournal.com
I can't make it tonight, due to Werk Faff (I have Wednesday off, so that buggers about with my hours)...

In more werk news, it's only 4 weeks till Late Thursdays stop for Christmas, so yay :-)

Date: November 14th, 2005 12:23 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
Boo for tonight - will you be able to do Mon next week, or should we try for a different day?

Date: November 14th, 2005 12:32 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] dyddgu.livejournal.com
Yes, I can do Monday next week, as am back on 5pm finish :-)

Date: November 14th, 2005 03:42 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Heck, I think even I can do next Monday ...

Date: November 15th, 2005 04:16 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Famous last words - I've just won tickets to this, which is in London.

Date: November 16th, 2005 03:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
Curse you! I was going to give you back loads of books. I've got to get rid of the buggers at some point.

Date: November 16th, 2005 03:42 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Also you owe me money. How about lunch on Sunday?

Date: November 16th, 2005 05:18 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
Do you mean reading week money, or other money (worries she's forgotten something)? Sunday might or might not work depending on whether Alex's folks are coming over.

Date: November 16th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Don't worry, I was only thinking of the reading week money, and that's not urgent. :) It's just I'll be in Oxford Sunday evening anyway, so it would be convenient--but I'm sure we can work out another time.

Date: November 16th, 2005 09:18 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com
Ah, good. I'll try to sort that out ASAP for both Alex and I and transfer it to you over the magical internet. It looks like we're going to be seeing Alex's folks at their place on Sunday but we'll be back by evening so perhaps if I txt you when we get back we can see if it's feasible to meet up or just for you to pop over for a cup of tea on your way out of town or whatever.

Date: November 17th, 2005 12:20 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Well, wait until I've got confirmation of the exact amount (the paperwork hasn't come through yet). Don't worry, I'll send an email round when I know. :) Stopping by on my way home may work well (especially if you've got hot chocolate ...) so yes, please do text me when you get back! :)

Date: November 17th, 2005 11:46 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] t--m--i.livejournal.com
You could take up the dancing again that you said you were going to do when you stopped going running with us [VBEG].
The brutal fact is that a Forties-style figure goes with a Forties-style diet (alcohol on special occasions only, meat & 2 veg for lunch and dinner, no snacks) and Forties-level of activity (lots of walking to & from the shops because you ain't got a fridge, daily carpet sweeping, digging the allotment u.s.w). Yer pays yer money, yer takes yer choice. If you want the TV, the wine, the snacks, you have to take the figure that comes with it. Modern life sucks sometimes huh.

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